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PostitusPostitas uLtImAtEcRiTiC » 30. Märts 2013, 19:11

Maailmalõpu pubi
The World's End (2013)

Viis sõpra, kes tulevad kokku meenutamaks oma 20 aasta tagust pubituuri, peavad korraga kogu inimkonna hukatusest päästma. Filmide "Shaun of the Dead" ja "Hot Fuzz" tegijate uus komöödia. Peaosades Simon Pegg ja Nick Frost, lisaks Martin Freeman, Eddie Marsan, Paddy Considine ning veetlev Rosamund Pike. Filmi režissöör on Edgar Wright.

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Re: The World's End

PostitusPostitas LiveForThis » 30. Märts 2013, 19:32

Üks oodatuim film sellel aastal, pole kahtlustki (Y)

No on ikka ansambel:
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PostitusPostitas CyberRax » 13. Oktoober 2013, 21:22

Igati vaadatav. Tõsi, ei "Shaun of the Dead"i ega "Hot Fuzz"i mõõtu välja ei andnud, aga sellest pole lugu. Huumor oli muhe, osatäitmised olid asjalikud. Ja võitlusstseenid, vau, nende koreograafia ületab kõik mida sel aastal näinud olen. Lisapunkt lõpu eest, mis oli tõsine vaheldus Hollywoodi klišeedele.
Näinud ca. 1,8 (.8 päirneb ca. 4 vaatamisest mis erinevatel põhjustel pooleli jäid) korda, võib vabalt veel vaadata. 8/10.

Viis sõpra, kes tulevad kokku meenutama oma 20 aasta tagust pubikaklust,
Selle kokkuvõttega on küll puusse pandud. "20 aasta tagust 12s erinevas pubis joomise ööd" oleks täpsem (eesti keeles pole vist inglaste pub-crawl'ile täpset vastet) . Kaklusi oli, aga need olid teisejärgulised...
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PostitusPostitas tuusla » 14. Oktoober 2013, 14:00

Vasteks võiks olla nt "pubituur".
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Re: Maailmalõpu pubi

PostitusPostitas DaydreamDiamond » 15. November 2013, 17:14

Ootasin palju vaimukamat filmi. Kuna film on komöödia ja filmi jooksul oli mul paar muiet - seega veidi kehvasti.

Rollitäited olid ju iseenesest ladnad.

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Re: Maailmalõpu pubi

PostitusPostitas ZeMonsta » 17. November 2013, 18:25

Veidi teistmoodi jah kui eelnevad Cornetto-triloogia filmid. Ootasin lihtsat komöödiat, aga Edgar Wrightil oli seekord midagi tõsisemat ja täiskasvanulikumat plaanis. Esmapilgul see võib-olla nii väga välja ei paista, aga natuke järele mõeldes ja targemate inimeste mõtisklusi* lugedes hakkab bigger picture vaikselt nähtavale kooruma.

CyberRax kirjutas:Lisapunkt lõpu eest, mis oli tõsine vaheldus Hollywoodi klišeedele.

Jah, lõpp sidus loo otsad kenasti kinni, olemata sealjuures lääge või kuidagi kulunud.


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mida need robotid (õigemini tühjad kestad või peegeldused) üldse esindasid:

LET'S START HERE: MOST OFTEN WE SEE THE USE OF ROBOTS IN SCI-FI OR FILMS AS STAND-INS FOR CONFORMITY. YOU KNOW THE CONFLICTS THAT COME FROM THAT, THE ENLIGHTENED VS. THE UNENLIGHTENED, ETC. AND A FEW PEOPLE SORT OF SUSPECT THAT CONFORMITY IS ALSO THE THEMATIC SUBJECT OF THIS MOVIE, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY ACCURATE. IN FACT, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE COULDN'T GET A GOOD LOCK ON WHAT THE ROBOTS REPRESENTED EXACTLY. FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT THEM FROM GARY'S VIEW THE BEHAVIOR OF THE ROBOTS IS THAT THEY ARE LIFELESS, PERSONALITY-LESS, KILLJOYS (AND BEER OBSTACLES!) HE EVEN KEEPS REFERENCING THE MEANING OF ROBOTS BEING "SLAVES," BUT THEY KEEP INSISTING "WE'RE NOT SLAVES." SO THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTICE THAT TO NICK FROST'S CHARACTER, ANDY KNIGHTLY, THE ROBOTS TAKE THE FORM OF TEMPTRESSES. AND FOR PETER PAGE THE ROBOTS TAKE THE FORM OF A SCHOOL BULLY AND CHILDHOOD TRAUMA. AND EVEN FOR BASIL, THE CRAZY GUY WITH THE CRAZY STRAW AT THE BAR ("NOT SO CRAZY NOW!"), THE ROBOTS ARE ALL PART OF A VAST CONSPIRACY!

SO WHAT IS PERHAPS CONFUSING IS THAT, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE NARRATIVE, ALL OF THESE CHARACTERIZATIONS ARE COMPLETELY TRUE...

AND THAT'S WHEN ONE DETAIL BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT... THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THIS IS A MOVIE THAT DOESN'T MINCE WORDS. THAT EVERYTHING IS VERY MUCH ON PURPOSE. SO NOTICE THE LONG SCENE WHERE OUR LOVELY DRUNKEN FOOLS CAN'T SEEM TO AGREE ON WHAT THEY SHOULD CALL THESE ROBOTS. THEY TRY AND TRY AND NONE OF THE FUNNY NAMES STICK...

SO INSTEAD THEY END UP CALLING THEM "BLANKS."

AND THAT'S WHEN IT ALL SNAPS INTO FOCUS AND THE CENTRAL THEME OF THIS DEVICE BECOMES CLEAR. THEY'RE NOT ROBOTS, THEY'RE BLANKS. THEY'RE PLAIN WHITE CANVASES. THEY ARE MERE SHELLS THAT WE CAN PROJECT OURSELVES ONTO, WHETHER THEY ARE OUR FEARS, OUR DESIRES, OUR HOPES, OUR HANGUPS, OR WHATEVER IS THE GREATEST CONFLICT IN OUR ADULT LIVES. THEY ARE BLANKS WHICH EMBODY THOSE FEELINGS. AND WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT, THE ROBOTS IN THIS FILM ACTUALLY BECOME REFLECTIONS.

O-MAN SUCCUMBS TO SELF-INVOLVED EGO. PAGE SUCCUMBS WHEN HE TURNS BACK TO GO FIGHT A BULLY (HIS DEMON, REALLY). SURE, PAGE EVEN LETS OUT A FUNNY JOKE THAT "IT'S WORTH IT" BUT HE STILL LOST HIS LIFE IN THE FIGHT. THESE EVENTS ARE ALL REFLECTIVE OF PERSONAL BAGGAGE. GO BACK AGAIN AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING CRAZY BASIL SAYS TO STEVEN IN THE COAT ROOM AT THE MERMAID AND SEE HOW IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL IDEA: HE TALKS ALL ABOUT THE FATEFUL COMET BRINGING THE BLANKS ON THE NIGHT OF THE ORIGINAL PUB CRAWL. WHAT COULD JUST FEEL LIKE SIMPLE EXPOSITION IS INSTEAD TAPPING INTO THE KEY THEMES (AGAIN, NOTHING IS AN ACCIDENT IN THESE MOVIES). FOR IT WAS THAT NIGHT WHEN ADOLESCENCE WAS LEFT BEHIND THE FEARS OF ALL THE CHARACTERS TOOK SHAPE. ALL OF THEIR "BLANKS" WERE USHERED ONTO THIS PLANET THE NIGHT OF THEIR GREAT LAST MOMENT OF YOUTH. THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT OR THROWAWAY EXPOSITION. THE ANALOGY IS CLEAR: THE COMET BRINGING "THE BLANKS" WAS THE HERALD OF ALL THEIR RESPECTIVE ADULTHOOD PROBLEMS.

NOW, WHERE THIS ANALOGY MIGHT SEEM PROBLEMATIC TO YOU IS IN TRYING TO SEE HOW IT FITS INTO THE FINAL STANDOFF WITH "THE NETWORK," WHICH ON THE SURFACE IT SEEMS LIKE A BASIC SCI-FI TROPE ABOUT INDIVIDUALITY IN THE MIDST OF TECHNOCRATIC SOCIOLOGICAL CONFORMITY (WHICH IS AN ACTUAL THING! ... IT'S ALSO A RECENT DR. WHO PLOT!). BUT AGAIN, THIS MOVIE WOULDN'T BE ABOUT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THE ANALOG VS. MODERNITY, OR EVEN GENERATIONAL NOSTALGIA. INSTEAD, THE FINAL STANDOFF COMPLETELY FITS OUR "BLANK" THEMATIC MODEL BECAUSE THAT MOMENT IS ALL ABOUT SELF-HONESTY OF OUR ABILITY TO LIVE UP TO OUR PROJECTIONS. WE HAVE THE NETWORK IS MAKING A PLEA TO BE RULED BY REASON. AND YET WE HAVE OUR THREE DRUNK HUMANS ARE MAKING PLEAS TO BE FUCK UPS. THEY'RE ALL DOING IT FOR THE OWN REASONS, (PICK FROM THE LIST OF BLANK CONCERNS WE'VE USED SO FAR) SO WHAT MAY SEEM LIKE LAME ACT OF HUMAN DEFIANCE IS INSTEAD SOMETHING ELSE (AND IF WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO MORE FUN SYNCHRONICITY THEN NOTE THE FILM OPENS WITH PRIMAL SCREAM'S LOADED COMPLETE WITH THE LYRICS: " Just what is it that you want to do? / We wanna be free / We wanna be free to do what we wanna do / And we wanna get loaded / And we wanna have a good time." WHICH IS THE EXACT SPEECH THAT GARY KING AND CO. GIVE TO THE NETWORK). WE SEEMINGLY THINK THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT THE TRIUMPH OF HUMANITY'S FUCKED UP NATURE AND THIS IS US "WINNING," BUT IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THAT AT ALL.

SERIOUSLY. ZERO IN ON THE MOST IMPORTANT CONFRONTATION OF THAT SCENE: GARY KING IS A GIVEN A CHOICE TO EFFECTIVELY GO BACK IN TIME TO BECOME A ROBOT OF HIS OWN PERSONAL HIGH SCHOOL SELF. IT IS SEEMINGLY EVERYTHING HE COULD EVER WANT... AND YET HE REJECTS IT. PART OF THE GENIUS OF THIS MOMENT IS THAT IT ALMOST PLAYS LIKE A JOKE BECAUSE HE CAN'T GIVE UP THE EGO OF IT NOT BEING "HIM," WHICH WOULD MAKE IT SEEM TO BE A GESTURE OF SOLIPSISM, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE MOMENT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF A BIGGER TRANSITION: HE IS ACCEPTING HIS CURRENT SELF. AND THEN THINK BACK TO JUST MOMENTS BEFORE WHEN NICK FROST IS GIVEN A FINAL CHANCE TO REVISIT TEMPTATION AND YET HE SLAMS THROUGH THE BLANK'S STOMACH TO RETRIEVE HIS WEDDING RING. THESE ARE TWO RADICALLY DIFFERENT MOMENTS OF FINAL CONFRONTATION WITH THE "BLANKS" AND THUS WE SEE THAT THAT THAT IT IS NOT THE SPECIFIC THEORY BEHIND THEM. IT IS ONLY THE OVERALL DYNAMIC THAT MATTERS. FOR GARY, IT'S NOT ARGUING FOR THE RIGHT TO FUCK UP THE HUMAN RACE. IT'S ESSENTIALLY COMING TO TERMS WITH "I'M AN ALCOHOLIC." WHEREIN THERE IS NO CURE. THERE IS NO CURE FOR THE HUMAN RACE. IT IS AN INHERENT ERROR. IT IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THAT HUMAN LIMITATION.

OUR CHARACTERS ARE ACCEPTING THEIR FAULTS. THEY ARE OVERCOMING THE LENS OF LOOKING BACKWARD. THEY ARE FINDING A WAY THROUGH THE ISSUES OUR YOUTH CANNOT NAVIGATE. AND WHEN WE TRANSCEND PAST THOSE THINGS? THEN WE ARE TRULY FREE.

BUT IN THIS CASE, FREEDOM COMES IN THE FORM OF ARMAGEDDON.

HOW IS THAT FREEDOM EXACTLY? WELL, LET'S FIRST LOOK AT THROUGH THE LENS OF GARY KING, WHEREIN APOCALYPSE IS THE METAPHOR FOR SOBRIETY. FOR ONE, HE IS LITERALLY SOBER. BUT FOR THE WORLD THERE ARE NO MORE "BLANKS" WORKING IN SECRET (THOUGH IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE BLANKS BECOME SCAPEGOATS IN ARMAGEDDON, WHICH FULLY FITS THEIR "REFLECTION" OF THE PROBLEMS STATUS). INSTEAD THERE IS ONLY A CLEAN, HARD SOBERING LOOK AT LIFE. NO MORE ROSE COLORED GLASSES. IT IS THE HARD AND HONEST REALITY. IT'S THE METAPHORICAL HANGOVER. ANDY KNIGHTLY SAYS IT BEST: "You remember the Friday nights, I remember the Monday mornings." AND SO IN THIS NEW SOBRIETY, ANDY TOILS THE LAND WHILE BEING REUNITED WITH HIS WIFE (HE EVEN TALKS OF THEIR PROBLEMS NOT SEEMING SO BIG IN THIS NEW, UNDERSTANDING WORLD). PADDY CONSIDINE'S CHARACTER GOES OFF WITH ROSAMUND PIKE TO HAVE A SIMPLE, UNDERSTANDING LIFE TOGETHER. AND NOTICE THAT THE TWO CHARACTERS WHO WERE TURNED INTO BLANKS, O-MAN AND PETER PAGE (I.E. THOSE WHO NEVER TRANSCENDED THEIR "BLANK" ISSUE) GO RIGHT BACK TO DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING BEFORE. THEY DIDN'T TRANSFER INTO A NEW HUMAN LIFE IN THE APOCALYPSE OF CLARITY. THEY DIDN'T OVERCOME THEIR "BLANK."

IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT OUR SURVIVING CHARACTERS HAVE NOT CHANGED TOO MUCH. THEY HAVEN'T BEING RADICALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THEY'RE JUST MORE UNDERSTANDING. MORE IN CONTROL. THAT'S WHAT ACTUAL MATURITY LOOKS LIKE. SURE, GARY REMAINS THE SAME KIND OF GUY WHO WOULD START A BAR FIGHT AND NEED FOUR LOYAL FRIENDS AT HIS SIDE TO MAKE HIM FEEL AWESOME (OF COURSE, FOR THIS UNRESOLVED ISSUE THEY ARE STILL BLANKS!) BUT HE'S MADE THE CENTRAL STRIDES AT THE HEART OF HIS CHARACTER. IN THE END, HE IS LOOKING FOR A PUB (WAS IT "A NEW DAWN" PUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?) AND THEN HE MARCHES IN AND ORDERS A WATER. NOTE HOW EVEN THE CHOICE OF WATER IN THE FILM HAS ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT ANDY HAD BEEN ORDERING WATER ALL NIGHT INSTEAD OF CLUB SODA OR SOMETHING. BECAUSE WATER IS PURPOSEFUL. IT IS ABOUT SURVIVAL. WATER IS TRANSPARENT. IT IS CLEAR. PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND WATER IS EVERYTHING SOBRIETY STANDS FOR.

WHEN YOU GO BACK TO EARLIER IN THE FILM YOU'LL REMEMBER ONE LAST MOMENT OF SYNCHRONICITY, WHEREIN ANDY TELLS GARY WHAT TRUE COURAGE IS AFTER BEING CALLED A WUSS ONE TOO MANY TIMES. ANDY SAYS THAT TRUE COURAGE IS GOING INTO A BAR AFTER A RUGBY MATCH AND ALL THESE MASCULINE GUYS WHO ARE DRESSED UP WITH WAR PAINT AND DRINKING PINTS AND BEING ABLE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM AND ASK FOR TAP WATER... WHICH IS, OF COURSE, THE THE EXACT ENDING OF THE FILM FOR GARY KING.

CLARITY INDEED.

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Re: Maailmalõpu pubi

PostitusPostitas Audrey » 24. November 2013, 14:30

Jäin ka midagi enamat ootama, kuid ei saa nuriseda - lõbus vaatamine oli. Mõni koht oli tõesti "WTF".

Ja maru õlleisu tuli peale...
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6/10

PostitusPostitas Ralf » 24. Detsember 2013, 12:58

Stiili poolest on sel kahe varasema filmiga piisavalt ühist - kas või äkilise montaaži näol - kuid suures osas eriefektide abil jutustatav lugu ise millegagi silma ei paista ja korduvalt tekib tunne, et kogu filmi hoiab enda õlgadel just Simon Pegg. Ülejäänud tegelastega ei teki mingisugust sidet, kuigi neid mängima on valitud enam kui asjalikud briti näitlejad. Arvatavasti tegi "The World's End'ile" juba eos liiga tõsiasi, et seekord puudub vundament konkreetse alamžanri näol ("Shaun of the Dead'i" puhul olid selleks zombi- ja "Hot Fuzz'i" puhul politseifilmid). Tegu pole kaudse paroodiafilmiga, vaid lihtsakoelise ulmekomöödiaga. Ja kui varasematest osadest võib pärast kümnekordset vaatamistki tuvastada ülivaimukaid pisidetaile, mis varem märkamatuks olid jäänud (mõlemasse filmi on neid peidetud kõvasti), siis "The World's End'i" puhul see nii pole. Märulistseenide vapustavalt hea koreograafia annab samas mõista, et vaeva on kõvasti nähtud, ent näiteks "Hot Fuzz'i" kõrval tundub film ikkagi kuidagi triviaalne.
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Re: Maailmalõpu pubi

PostitusPostitas Zinera » 10. Märts 2014, 00:46

5,5/10
DaydreamDiamond kirjutas:Ootasin palju vaimukamat filmi. Kuna film on komöödia ja filmi jooksul oli mul paar muiet - seega veidi kehvasti.

Sama seis ka siin, liiga vähe huumorit. Märulistseenid olid küll vägevad, aga kahjuks oleks tahtnud sisupoolest midagi vähe leidlikumat, kasvõi lõpu osas. "Hot Fuzz'ile" ja "Shaun of the Dead'ile" jääb film korralikult alla, kuigi Pegg ja Frost on koos ikka väga super duo.
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Re: Maailmalõpu pubi

PostitusPostitas Cochrane » 01. Märts 2016, 06:45

Pole nii terav, kui Hot Fuzz, mida vaataks üha uuesti ja uuesti, aga ühekordseks vaatamiseks sobib küll, igav igatahes ei hakanud. 7/10
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